Enforcer and Randy Orton are clearly not the same person and here is the proof

Volture wrote:

Enforcer and Randy Orton are clearly not the same person and here is the proof

Please keep your masturbation material out of the public forums. Thanks,

GrayGhost wrote:

Enforcer, just to derail it a minute, sorta. What do you think of Bill Mercer on World Class? I like him, and he was very reserved too. Plus, the way the Von Erichs were so far over, etc, and the Dallas crowd so hot, he didn't need to "add more to the matches" etc.

Yes, Mercer was good, though at times he seemed a little off. Mark Lowrance was pretty good too as was Bob Caudle.

Volture wrote:

enforcer wrote: Joey Styles was only good when his play-by-play was dubbed and edited into the ECW TV shows. When his stuff was done live on the ECW PPV's, he seemed lost at times. this proves once again you know nothing

Not that Enforcer needs anyone to take his side or defend his point, but he is absolutely correct. Styles was only good in the original ECW becuase Paul Heyman had him voice over the tv shows and he was fed lines to say. The PPV's he did seem lost and I never understood why anyone thought he was such a good announcer, I never thought even his post produced stuff was good in the original ECW.

neftali wrote:

Volture wrote: enforcer wrote: Joey Styles was only good when his play-by-play was dubbed and edited into the ECW TV shows. When his stuff was done live on the ECW PPV's, he seemed lost at times. this proves once again you know nothing Not that Enforcer needs anyone to take his side or defend his point, but he is absolutely correct. Styles was only good in the original ECW becuase Paul Heyman had him voice over the tv shows and he was fed lines to say. The PPV's he did seem lost and I never understood why anyone thought he was such a good announcer, I never thought even his post produced stuff was good in the original ECW.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to insinuate that yours is better than someone elses is just wrong and that's what Enforcer does. If you, him, Vince or anyone else does not like Joey that's fine but don't rip on those that do. I know I did the same to him but that was after he did it but I see now that I was wrong for my statement and I take it back.

Volture wrote:

neftali wrote: Volture wrote: enforcer wrote: Joey Styles was only good when his play-by-play was dubbed and edited into the ECW TV shows. When his stuff was done live on the ECW PPV's, he seemed lost at times. this proves once again you know nothing Not that Enforcer needs anyone to take his side or defend his point, but he is absolutely correct. Styles was only good in the original ECW becuase Paul Heyman had him voice over the tv shows and he was fed lines to say. The PPV's he did seem lost and I never understood why anyone thought he was such a good announcer, I never thought even his post produced stuff was good in the original ECW. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to insinuate that yours is better than someone elses is just wrong and that's what Enforcer does. If you, him, Vince or anyone else does not like Joey that's fine but don't rip on those that do. I know I did the same to him but that was after he did it but I see now that I was wrong for my statement and I take it back.

Fucking Racist.

Volture wrote:

neftali wrote: Volture wrote: enforcer wrote: Joey Styles was only good when his play-by-play was dubbed and edited into the ECW TV shows. When his stuff was done live on the ECW PPV's, he seemed lost at times. this proves once again you know nothing Not that Enforcer needs anyone to take his side or defend his point, but he is absolutely correct. Styles was only good in the original ECW becuase Paul Heyman had him voice over the tv shows and he was fed lines to say. The PPV's he did seem lost and I never understood why anyone thought he was such a good announcer, I never thought even his post produced stuff was good in the original ECW. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to insinuate that yours is better than someone elses is just wrong and that's what Enforcer does. If you, him, Vince or anyone else does not like Joey that's fine but don't rip on those that do. I know I did the same to him but that was after he did it but I see now that I was wrong for my statement and I take it back.

Ummm show me where I ripped on you for your opinion in this post. I said I agreed with Enforcer's, gave my opinion on Styles and said I didn't understand why people thought Styles was good. No where did I rip on you.

neftali wrote:

Volture wrote: neftali wrote: Volture wrote: enforcer wrote: Joey Styles was only good when his play-by-play was dubbed and edited into the ECW TV shows. When his stuff was done live on the ECW PPV's, he seemed lost at times. this proves once again you know nothing Not that Enforcer needs anyone to take his side or defend his point, but he is absolutely correct. Styles was only good in the original ECW becuase Paul Heyman had him voice over the tv shows and he was fed lines to say. The PPV's he did seem lost and I never understood why anyone thought he was such a good announcer, I never thought even his post produced stuff was good in the original ECW. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to insinuate that yours is better than someone elses is just wrong and that's what Enforcer does. If you, him, Vince or anyone else does not like Joey that's fine but don't rip on those that do. I know I did the same to him but that was after he did it but I see now that I was wrong for my statement and I take it back. Ummm show me where I ripped on you for your opinion in this post. I said I agreed with Enforcer's, gave my opinion on Styles and said I didn't understand why people thought Styles was good. No where did I rip on you.

show me where I said you did that

Neftali is superior to Volture, therefore, they are not equal.

Hugh Jass wrote:

Neftali is superior to Volture, therefore, they are not equal.

Volture should really take a hint from this. I am not exactly Mr. Popular on this board so when people are telling you that I am superior to you, that really says a lot.

yeah it says that everyone is entitled to their opinion

enforcer wrote:

But I see you didn't dispute his main point.

Of course not, because he knows he'd get put in his place as a a dumb mark trying to tell a veteran of the business that he knows what sells and what doesn't.

Captain Howdy wrote:

enforcer wrote: But I see you didn't dispute his main point. Of course not, because he knows he'd get put in his place as a a dumb mark trying to tell a veteran of the business that he knows what sells and what doesn't.

Um I already said I agree with him but again times change and so does what the audience wants.

The Hell w him, The worst part is not hearing this anymore at Raw, esp in person....Damn it all to hell

Volture wrote:

but again times change and so does what the audience wants.

But it's not for the better.

Volture wrote:

Captain Howdy wrote: enforcer wrote: But I see you didn't dispute his main point. Of course not, because he knows he'd get put in his place as a a dumb mark trying to tell a veteran of the business that he knows what sells and what doesn't. Um I already said I agree with him but again times change and so does what the audience wants.

He's entitled to his opinion. My longevity has hardly turned me any sort of profit, so I'm not exactly speaking as an expert either. I do know that I've been taught that wrestling is much like any other production, play or movie. It tells a story. Sometimes, a story goes in directions the viewer may not have wanted it to...yet afterwards, the viewer is still entertained.

Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story.

MAV wrote:

Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story.

As much as Enforcer hates it you just described ECW.

Bottom line is that everyone in the audience usually doesn't know what they want so it's the job of the promoter to tell them in a way that they think they got what they wanted. If you ask me the pyro is the dumbest thing in wrestling but then again I hate fireworks in general and don't understand the world's fascination with them.

I hope someone lights some fireworks on your lawn.

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Volture wrote:

MAV wrote: Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story. As much as Enforcer hates it you just described ECW. Bottom line is that everyone in the audience usually doesn't know what they want so it's the job of the promoter to tell them in a way that they think they got what they wanted. If you ask me the pyro is the dumbest thing in wrestling but then again I hate fireworks in general and don't understand the world's fascination with them.

I was speaking somewhat metaphorically. ECW may be devoid of fireworks ( I wouldn't know...I've watched the damn thing like 4 times, and never from beginning to end) but the basic format still seems to be "shocking" things happening and announcers screaming about it. What kills me about that is when they want to, they can tell the best stories. Flair's last match and the build up was very good and didn't involve Ric giving Michael’s wife a ride on Space Mountain. No one ate worms, no one got an ass shoved in their faces and no one gave birth to a hand. Instead, you had a grizzled veteran trying desperately to cling to his career. Say what you will about the Old Yeller finish, the whole thing was palatable, easy to understand, easy to relate to and well done and built up over time.

That was WAY more compelling than any silly series of skits.

MAV wrote:

Volture wrote: MAV wrote: Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story. As much as Enforcer hates it you just described ECW. Bottom line is that everyone in the audience usually doesn't know what they want so it's the job of the promoter to tell them in a way that they think they got what they wanted. If you ask me the pyro is the dumbest thing in wrestling but then again I hate fireworks in general and don't understand the world's fascination with them. I was speaking somewhat metaphorically. ECW may be devoid of fireworks ( I wouldn't know...I've watched the damn thing like 4 times, and never from beginning to end) but the basic format still seems to be "shocking" things happening and announcers screaming about it. What kills me about that is when they want to, they can tell the best stories. Flair's last match and the build up was very good and didn't involve Ric giving Michael’s wife a ride on Space Mountain. No one ate worms, no one got an ass shoved in their faces and no one gave birth to a hand. Instead, you had a grizzled veteran trying desperately to cling to his career. Say what you will about the Old Yeller finish, the whole thing was palatable, easy to understand, easy to relate to and well done and built up over time. That was WAY more compelling than any silly series of skits.

Well I was speaking of the original ECW not this new garbage and I agree 100% on the Ric Flair angle

Volture wrote:

MAV wrote: Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story. As much as Enforcer hates it you just described ECW.

I didn't know good narration meant screaming "OH MY GOD!" over 30 times each broadcast.

Captain Howdy wrote:

Volture wrote: MAV wrote: Very often, the best stories don't involve flashing lights, explosions or special effects every 2.4 seconds. They involve confilct and human drama built over a period of time. A good announcer is like a narrator to that story. As much as Enforcer hates it you just described ECW. I didn't know good narration meant screaming "OH MY GOD!" over 30 times each broadcast.

LOL. Good one Captain

Captain Howdy wrote:

Volture wrote: MAV wrote: Very often, the best stories