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zanekd1
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:02 am |
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ok buddy for some reason my email address is in use on this site and ive been to alott of trainings for like the first 4 months of me training i would go 2 or 3 times a week and its not training its bumping around..and theres no better way to learn wrestling.. you can train all fuckin day but you might not no how to work a match this is practice and i kno the music sucks lol he did it as a joke lolol and who are you mr. el kabong? who are u to call me a backyarder.. what are u another fan with an ego who thinks he knows the business ?? haha funny and befor you guys shit all over us for being yarders look at the material cuz its better than alotta indy work that ive seen |
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GrayGhost
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:09 am |
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Zane, seriously, you just keep up with the "we are better than indy's, etc etc", fuck you, if you can do better, who are you, etc. Really, that is an immature attitude, and at least if you expressed your thoughts coherently, some on here MAY at least read your posts, without replying back the way they do. Just some food for thought. |
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zanekd1
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:16 am |
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ok once again who are u to say that? i may wrestle in a back yard... but ive also worked indy shows all over mass and RI so stfu cuz u have no idea what u are talkin about and my name is not sean u dumb fuck.. and how am i a terrible liar?u have no idea who i am so u dont know what ive done with wrestling.. u kno nothing
and my matches in a back yard are 10x better than some of the shit i see on the indys.. seriously have you ever seen a raging bull match?have u ever seen an ak fuego match?have you ever been to an acw show? are u serious ive taken shits that can work better matches than those guys |
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MAV
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:19 am |
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I took time out to watch the first youtube one posted. A couple of things...
a) If trying to prove to people you are a qualified wrestler, present an entire match...not clips of your big moves. While highlights can showcase your athletic ability, there are plenty of athletes who couldn't put together a match to save their lives. I always go back to what Jeff Costa used to tell me...
"I can train monkeys to do moves-and more people will pay money to see the monkey do moves than you".
b) A good quarter of what I saw involved you dropping people on their heads (or in one case, super kicking someone straight in the jaw). That is not the sign of a good wrestler. That's a sign of someone who has no regard for the guy he's working with.
As a sidebar...if the guys you are working with throw you on your head with the same frequency you do it to them, it would explain your rather...rough writing style. A loss of cognitive abilities is common with victims of frequent concussion. So is a loss of bowel control (which also may explain some of the shit you've smeared on in your posts).
c) It is entirely plausible for a non-wrestler to grasp the basic concepts of pro wrestling without actually being a wrestler. A lot of people prefer to just be fans and avoid the requisite self abusive behavior involved in a wrestling match. |
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GrayGhost
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:30 am |
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| zanekd1 wrote: |
| seriously have you ever seen a raging bull match? |
Yeah, I have. I always have been a fan of Manny Fernandez' work.
And honestly, just like all the other backyarders, are you too cocky, proud ?? or just plain STUPID to not listen to Mav, someone who knows what the hell he is talking about.
Oh, and Kabong, myself and others are FANS, who have seen hundreds of LEGIT wrestling events, so our opinions hold some weight. |
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Shane Daly
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 11:54 am |
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What does Raging Bull have to do with anything? |
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GrayGhost
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 11:56 am |
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As I said, the kid quoted "raging bull" in his post above. Sorry for the lame attempt at humor, I guess, on a thread that should be blown off the face of the earth, perhaps. |
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Shane Daly
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 12:01 pm |
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No, I knew where you were coming from GG, I just didn't understand why the backtarder brought Bull into conversation. Myself and Atlee Greene thoroughly enjoyed working with him, look forward to doing it again, and he's a nice guy to boot. |
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unknown_mask_man
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 5:54 pm |
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You didn't shut me up. I fell asleep on my dads couch as said. I have a job at least. Blaze and Sean Synn and Christian Payne are the guys behind the zanekd1 name. I never denied being David Baker nor would I. But as been said you weren't trained, you only went to few training sessions. As for wrestling in the RWA ring. I did and it has a nice bump with shit ass ropes. As for smoking weed before any show thats complete fucking bullshit. I have never and will never. As for others carrying me thats fine. I am still green in the business. Well I am going to training. See ya.
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 7:11 pm |
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David Deacon's 5-point Checklist on How To Spot Backyard Trash and Garbage Wrestlers:
Are "matches" posted online are clips of high spots with music overlayed, usually some bad piece of contrived modern hard rock? (Y / N)
Does the website and/or photos of the "talent" look terribly over-engineered? (Y / N)
Is there a guy who tries to look creepy like a demon but instead looks creepy like a child molester? (Y / N)
Everyone has an over-the-top gimmick where part of that gimmick is being "a dangerous opponent" or "a force to be reckoned with" ? (Y / N)
At least 3/4 of the roster wears either street clothes or gym wear? (Y / N) |
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Same great taste, less syllables!
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OnceXtremeAlwaysXtreme
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 8:28 pm |
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Zane you say you dont wrestle untrained guys but all the videos are you wrestling backyard ...so who are you in the RWA ? Sean Synn or who ?
youve wrestled for thenewcwa ? i was at that show so who were you? do you train at the newcwa's training place ? |
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THENEWCWA
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| Posted 26 Aug 2008, 10:26 pm |
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I do my best to stay FAR away from this message board, or I just don't log myself in to comment on anything.
But, this thread started off being funny, now it is awesome.
Someone clued me in that this thread had something to do with me. So I am here to say, hi.
Please don't trash me! |
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zanekd1
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ShawnO
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 12:00 am |
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Nobody, but you, cares. |
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zanekd1
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 11:26 am |
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clearly shawn o u have no idea what ur talking about because if no one cared this thread wouldnt be so hot.. and if u cant tell ppl are talkin to me... not you so take ur 2 cents elsewhere buddy |
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unknown_mask_man
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 11:49 am |
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I watched that last match you posted. Its funny that when Sean Synn got in the ring he tried to do some stupid hurricanrana thing that took WAYYYYYY too long. Blaze your neckbreaker 619 double stomp thing was sloppy as all hell, the neckbreaker looked terrible. Also Julius aka Christian Payne was well over blown up at the end his clotheslines looked like a retarded cookie monster reaching for his cookies. NO psychology and too many moves. You oversold the package piledriver looks like a little slip and boom broken neck. Way too dangerous not everyone is going to take that. other than that you need to just stop posting on the INDY board and make a backyard board. |
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zanekd1
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 12:01 pm |
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ok the package driver is so safe.. it obv. tricked you because no1 has hit their heads with it..and how was there no psychology?.. and i love how you forget to mention all the nasty stuff that happened... and how was there to many moves?why dont u teach me all great wrestler because you know so much.. because i wanna learn how to almost break my nose and thumb doing split legged moonsaults... so fuck u |
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MAV
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm |
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It's critique time, if I may be so arrogant as to present myself as semi-qualified to make these kind of judgments.
a) Which one are you...the VERY skinny kid with long black hair in red pants with yellow stars? If so...what are you, like 12 years old? I have a rule of thumb...you shouldn't wrestle until your testicles have dropped or you're old enough to need a license to fish.
b) The match started kinda ok, but once you guys started into bumping it was nothing but run and gun, which almost always leads me to this question; who the hell was the heel, and who the hell was the babyface?
Too many guys think being a heel is just being an asshole when you walk from the locker room to the ring...and that's so untrue. If you're a heel, it's from the time you come through the curtain until the time you exit through it. Same goes for the babyface. Either way, it is behoovent on the guys in the match to enforce what your role is in that match. It's part of that telling of a story you always hear about. Otherwise, it just comes down to a contest of who does the coolest moves. Since 98% of all bumps are based primarily on the same 4 bumps (back bump, German bridge/flipping bump, ass bump and face bump), the moves become forgotten because they all involve landing in the same 4 basic positions. That's why people get burned out on bump shows and they kill off heat.
c) The match itself had times when the selling was OK to comically bad. As it wore on (and on and on), the forearms of the larger guy looked very sloppy and ineffective. You also did nothing in the way of keeping yourself alive. It's part of selling. If someone is beating you to the point of death's door, you don't just pop up and hit a couple of flippy, energy sapping moves. The guy’s been pounding on you…it should look like it takes a superhuman effort to hit one, powerful big move. Your method is like some guy in a coma jumping off the bed and running a 6k race.
d) Tell the ref to tuck his fucking shirt in.
Edit: the middle two would be the some of the psychology you were wondering about. The first and last ones are just me being a sarcastic prick. |
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unknown_mask_man
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm |
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Pants got caught on top rope. Since then I've never worn jeans in the ring. Bad idea i learned my lesson. As for me teaching you i cant. I don't even have a valid say in anything you do. But, I do have an opinion. Once again ill say this is an INDY board not a BACKYARD board. Oh and remember that time you wrestled a good match. Except that hasn't happened and probably won't. Oh and the funny thing is you talk shit ONLINE not to anyones face. ShawnO is right though, no one cares. |
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TheNaturalTruth
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| Posted 27 Aug 2008, 1:12 pm |
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Ok guys this has gone far enough, and when I say guys I mean the RWA guys. We're talking "apples and oranges" ...backyard and Indy. This is a Indy site only, we aren’t going to change anybodies opinions here. So let’s just drop it. It’s great everyone wants to stick up for what they believe in but sometimes it takes a bigger person to just walk away. Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you’re still retarded. |
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