[WrestleMark1999]

This might be the best ACW thread I have ever read! Seriously. A lot of people are FINALLY taking recognition of what kind of promotion this is/was. It seems apparent that once every other month we have a new ACW topic on the hammer. It's starting to become a regular topic on here. People taking good and/or bad still means that people are talking about ACW. So ask yourself this question:

"If people are talking about a wrestling show, what does that mean?"

Maybe it sounds like a dumb question, or it is exactly how you read it. It's people TALKING ABOUT A WRESTLING SHOW. My god.....ACW has wrestling shows! Are we still playing state the obvious? Apparently so!

The point I am trying to make is that ACW has been making more head lines on the hammer. A site which is dictated by mostly workers and a handful of wrestling marks. That's something that those inside ACW had to be proud of. Even all the "old school" ACW wrestlers should be proud of. Because their product that was nothing is now working it's way up into one of the most talked about shows in the area.....that's something right there.

Now if that's not the truth I don't know what is. I dare someone to tell me I am lying. Because I can bring up all the threads that have been mentioned about ACW and it would be a pretty good number. Not including the results postings either.

[WrestleMark1999]

P.S

I would also love to see pics from the bikini contest

[WrestleMark1999]

bump

[ShawnO]

MayorMcCheese wrote:

Shut up ShawnO, you dont even know what youre talkiing about. ACW was around long before you started showing up to shows. You know nothing about this business except the smell of butt, because thats all you kiss. For your information, yes i was the biggest advocate of ace at first, because we all hated top rope and wanted to beat them. then that has been booker wanted to come on here and play the innocent card and say acw never said anything like that. So all those old top rope guys who talked trash and now dont want to live up to it made me look like an idiot. I am an advocate for the orginal acw. the acw that was about having fun and being with friends and not taking ourselves seriuosly. that was a good time. now its a bunch of guys who couldnt hack it in legit promtions, and with a couple of the originals in the mix. We were the backbone, and were tossed aside when the new old guys came in. So yeah I have a reason to be pissed. Oh and now you have all these guys walking around backstage, with some exceptions, like theyre the best wrestler ever. DB is one of those guys and i called him out on it. Yea, i may be nice to your face, but inside youre just a hack, like the rest. Cant u guys go work for the other backyard feds and leave ACW alone. Or go get good and work for legit feds, and let us have our group back.

I never claimed to know everything or anything at all about the "business," and frankly, you don't seem to know everything either. I know ACW was around long before I started attending shows in the area. I began going to YPW/SCCW shows in Fall River and New Bedford in 2002, when I moved to New England. I wound up being on weekends at my real job for about four years...then I started getting back into going to shows in 2006. One of my first New England indy shows I went to was ACW (when they were still running at Multiplex Sports in Somerset). It really, really, really sucked back then. The shitbags that were there thought they were actually wrestlers. It was the worst wrestling I ever saw. Jackasses like you came here and stuck up for the untrained morons that were there. That's when I found out about NECW, Chaotic, EPW/Slamtech, and rediscovered TRP. I started going to the good shows...and stopped wasting my money with ACW. However, I will say, looking at their lineups, the promotion has gotten better. I will give them that much credit.

I know there are some folks within ACW that hate Top Rope and the Power That Be that runs it. Who cares? I doubt the TRP promoter really gives a rat's ass what they think. The ACW folks who said one thing, then changed their story...well, that's their stupidity. They did not make you look like an idiot, because you have done that on your own. You don't need their help.

Perhaps your version of the "original ACW" was different from what I saw almost three years ago. The product I saw back then was all untrained "workers." Was your "original ACW" like that? Get over the fact that you are probably one of the untrained morons that I'm talking about that was weeded out for veteran guys like Ashworth, Baker, etc. You have no reason to be pissed. Guys like that can teach you a thing or six.

Don't talk to me about people who walk around like their shit don't stink. In my line of work, I deal with overblown-egoed prima donnas every day. I am the last person you want to complain to about egos. Spend a day in my shoes at my full-time job and see and deal with what real egos are like.

If you want your "group back," start up your own yardtard fed, go join one of those bogus unknown promotions up on the North Shore or New Hampshire...and go have your bullshit "fun" because I don't think ACW or any other promotion needs you around. Chakan hit the nail right on the head in his post. Read it and highly consider doing what he wants.

Mr. WM1999: Big deal that ACW is making "headlines" on a message board. So far, I fail to see any real positive news about ACW. Most of the ACW chatter is McCheese talking shit and the ACW workers responding with the eat shit and die-type responses. Yes, ACW is getting some attention, but it's not good attention. I don't think those inside at ACW should be proud of these negative threads. If I am going to read ACW threads, I would rather see something more positive about them...and not McCheese vs. The ACW Roster bullshit.

[enforcer]

Alright, who gave Shawn the enema?

[ShawnO]

enforcer wrote:

Alright, who gave Shawn the enema?

haha! I even got a chuckle out of that!

[WrestleMark1999]

A message board? You think that's all this is? It's a lot more then that. There are several people who come on this thing and take it as real as life itself. People like yourself and all the other board whores on here go ballistic for anything that is said against the norm. Cause in your eyes nothing is over in New England apparently until it has a stamped approved decision by all the "brains" on the hammer. Tell me is anyone really making money off this? Cause the guy that made this site was a genius. Let all the New England egos on one spot and have them have keyboard fights, lol....fucking sad.

And as far as your comment about ACW not getting good attention on here, maybe you should look at some of the posts TRP has been getting. Cause they ain't doing so good themselves.

[ShawnO]

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

A message board? You think that's all this is?

Yes.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

It's a lot more then that.

What "more" is it then? Please explain.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

There are several people who come on this thing and take it as real as life itself.

People like Ghost and Holly.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

People like yourself

Wrong. Don't categorize me in with them, because I'm my own person.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

go ballistic for anything that is said against the norm.

The only ones who really go crazy are Ghost and Holly and a few other idiots who still live in their mother who think ROH is the only promotion worth watching.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

Cause in your eyes nothing is over in New England apparently until it has a stamped approved decision by all the "brains" on the hammer.

Not in my eyes, but I can agree with that to a point. I recall shitting on some promotions on here a couple of years ago, and I got bashed for it by all the Mr. Know It Alls, because those promotions I shit on were everybody's internet favorites...even though the people doing the counter posts had never been to any of those promotions' shows. I don't have a favorite promotion, never did, and never will. I just know what I like and what I don't like.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

Tell me is anyone really making money off this?

Ask the mods...they probably won't tell you anyway. Who knows how much coin they are making off those Google ads at the bottom of the page.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

Cause the guy that made this site was a genius.

I would call him/her even a bigger genius if he/she would get rid of some of the undesireables around here.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

Let all the New England egos on one spot and have them have keyboard fights, lol....fucking sad.

I thought that was what the old NEI board was for? I can agree that it is sad. Yes, I am guilty of being part of those fights in the past.

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

And as far as your comment about ACW not getting good attention on here, maybe you should look at some of the posts TRP has been getting. Cause they ain't doing so good themselves.

I will stick by that comment from earlier. However, I am not saying that TRP has been getting any positive feedback either. So, I would gess both promotions are in the same boat in terms of comments on here.

Also, thanks for your non-Mayor McCheese-esque response. It seems at least a couple of people can post and still have a calm conversation...even though we seem to agree to disagree on a few points.

[WrestleMark1999]

Yes ShawnO, there are people who come on this board and show true signs of intelligence and have rational thought behind there posts. My comment which I made about the hammer being "a lot more then it is" is a reference for all the lovers who come on here and set praise and mark out for themselves, put themselves over, trash other promotions, etc. And eventually with enough people reading the same material over and over and over again, it gets stuck in their heads. It's almost like how the media presents to the Americans that we actually vote on our presidency....do you think that really happens now?

It's the same concept. They come on here and see the board whores with there 1000,000 + posts or whatever ridiculous number it is and people will take their word for gold just cause of a stupid ranking system which was based on this moderator of this board. I love the hammer and how it gives me information on other promotions and workers and their dates but as you can agree with me, hate the bull shit behind all the heroes behind the keyboard.

I'll admit that I gained some respect from you with your last reply. There was honesty and what I took in as sincerity. Here's my stand on ACW so that way you can understand what I am coming from:

ACW is an uprising promotion. Has been since 2001 in my books. I have no recognition before hand cause I never heard about it prior to that. People were calling them backyarders then and still are now. What's changed? The roster has drastically changed yes. But there's more history to it then just that. What draws a worker to other shows? 1) To get work on that show 2) Watch their friends perform on the show. Am I wrong so far? Well back when ACW was "a bunch of backyarders" I recall a group of guys form the old Mike Edwards gang going down there and starting working their shows and hell....even started to show them a little bit more of the ropes. You tell me how many experienced workers who will willingly put themselves in an environment where they know EVERYONE is green but yet is still willing oi work with these guys and show them the real side of wrestling.

Then more success came there way with all the former Yankee/SCCW guys starting to make their way to ACW and a big bang effect happened and now we have what ACW is today. That's my standing on ACW. Is is the best promotion around here? Far from it! But on thing they do have is heart. I'm not here to start any fights I just try to set the facts straight and try to give credit where credit is due!

[GrayGhost]

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

It's the same concept. They come on here and see the board whores with there 1000,000 + posts or whatever ridiculous number it is and people will take their word for gold just cause of a stupid ranking system which was based on this moderator of this board.

I don't necessarily agree with that statement, but to each his own.

It does sound like this ACW has improved a lot, and maybe I'll check it out sometime too.

[chakan]

yea ghost I dont think you'll be disapointed

[ShawnO]

Ghost: You don't agree with it because you have a guilty conscience. You're one of the "board whores" he's talking about. You think your word on everything is law...and it's really not.

Mr. WM1999: Thank you for your kind words in the third paragraph. Props to you also for a well-thought out post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[GrayGhost]

ShawnO wrote:

Ghost: You don't agree with it because you have a guilty conscience. You're one of the "board whores" he's talking about. You think your word on everything is law...and it's really not. Mr. WM1999: Thank you for your kind words in the third paragraph. Props to you also for a well-thought out post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Any particular reason you keep bringing that up. I NEVER said my word was law, you just seem to be obsessed with me, or making trouble, or both. Oh well, as we said in the hippie days, "Thats your bag, man".

[WrestleMark1999]

Hey Ghost, why don't you have one of those interviews with someone on the ACW roster so we can have a more in dept history on the promotion and it's building grounds? They seem to be quite over on the board then I can finally prove my point about how many people take your word seriously.

[ridave]

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

Hey Ghost, why don't you have one of those interviews with someone on the ACW roster so we can have a more in dept history on the promotion and it's building grounds? They seem to be quite over on the board then I can finally prove my point about how many people take your word seriously.

Getting over by ACW workers dose not count. For example the most over fed on this board is 2CW and not one worker posts about there own fed just fans.

[WrestleMark1999]

You made my point clear. Everyone knows about 2CW and everyone has the wrong impression on those guys. Hence the interview.

[enforcer]

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

You made my point clear. Everyone knows about 2CW and everyone has the wrong impression on those guys.

How does everyone have the wrong impression about 2CW?

[WrestleMark1999]

"Those guys" is a reference to the ACW guys. If you had read the previous posts you might not have asked. Of course everyone here knows about 2CW. Especially you! Yes that is referring to you....so that there's no question about that.

Now before you turn this into a keyboard fight Mr. 19,000+ posts I'm going to do you the favor and insists that I am not interested in starting one. But if you instst then by all means go ahead if it gets your rocks off.

[enforcer]

Wow, ask an honest question and I get accused of starting a fight. Man, I just can't win.

[MAV]

On the 8th day, God created the internet.

Yesterday, he logged on, read this threads and said in regards to his 8th day creation "what the fuck was I thinking"?

Today, it's raining and flood waters are rising. There may be a connection.

[ridave]

WrestleMark1999 wrote:

You made my point clear. Everyone knows about 2CW and everyone has the wrong impression on those guys. Hence the interview.

Some of the ACW workers are moronic posters is my fare and honest impression and because of that I do not want to spend money on there shows.

[MayorMcCheese]

At least I know what I am. I don't pretend to be a "worker." I was barely trained in wrestling, just like the rest of the ACW roster. The only difference is I don't say I'm a wrestler, because I am not. And neither are you. You don't get paid for what you do. Our product sucks. Its awful. Have you ever seriously waqtched your matches and thought they were good? We suck. And Dave, youre beiing taken advantage of because the booker just laughs at you and all of us original ACW guys. Funny, because if you paid attention you would know he plans on leaving you and the rest of us behind the minute Joe decides to pick up and run again. At least thats the rumor going around. So Dave, why would you let all of us be used like that?

[DavidDeacon]

Right now I'm simultaneously watching someone get a syringe stuck into their eyeball on TV and reading the posts of an annoying someone who said they were leaving a couple months ago. I don't know which is causing me more pain.

[MayorMcCheese]

Someone told me that I should just quit ACW. I would love to quit ACW if I were a part of it. But I got out because the writing was on the wall. You wanna know who I am. Just think. Who are the guys YOU screwed over by coming in and acting holier than thou? You came in like you were a good worker and you knew everything about the business. The only thing you know about the business is how to book your friends in meaningless angles.

heres an idea: Go to another show. Go to Chaotic or NECW, actual promotions, and look at their wrestling and wrestlers...and then look at yourselves.

ACW was meant to be friends just having fun. You ruined it.

[DavidDeacon]

Soooooo when are you going on another 3-week vacation, Mayor McCheese?