Looks like John McCain see's a lot of "Hillary Fanatics" who dont want to vote for a man may vote for him, if he chooses a female VP

Article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_mccain_veepstakes

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DENVER - John McCain kept his vice presidential pick a closely guarded secret mere hours before the high-stakes announcement Friday and speculation moved to darkhorse candidate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as other, more prominent prospects dropped away. Two GOP strategists close to the McCain campaign said all indications pointed to Palin, a self-styled "hockey mom" and political reformer. The strategists spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized by the McCain camp to discuss the matter. There was no confirmation from McCain or his advisers. With an announcement scheduled in Dayton, Ohio, an associate of Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said the governor had been informed he is not McCain's pick. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak for Pawlenty, who had all but ruled himself out. "I'm not going to be there. I plan to be at the state fair. You can draw your conclusion from that," Pawlenty said on his weekly call-in radio show on WCCO-AM in Minneapolis. He also called it "a fair assumption" that he will not be McCain's running mate. Associates close to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney were saying the same thing, telling The Associated Press that the former presidential candidate had not been offered the job by McCain. Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., who has been an energetic supporter of McCain for months, was also eliminated from contention, according to a Republican official. Palin is a first-term governor credited with reforms of her out-of-the-way state. Newly minted Democratic nominee Barack Obama is making an aggressive play for the traditional GOP stronghold and its three electoral votes, and polls show the race close. At 44, Palin is younger than Obama and, like McCain, she calls herself a maverick. A Gulfstream IV from Anchorage, Alaska, flew into Middletown Regional Airport in Butler County near Cincinnati about 10:15 p.m. Thursday, said Rich Bevis, airport manager. He said several people came off the plane, including a woman and two teens, but there was no confirmation of who was aboard. "They were pretty much hustled off. They came right down the ramp, jumped in some vans here and off they went," Bevis said. "It was all hush, hush." Among the other possible running mates: former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and former Rep. Rob Portman of Ohio. The Arizona senator decided on his choice for vice president early Thursday, but the campaign has given no hint on the selection that will be announced on his 72nd birthday. The speculation sent a buzz throughout Denver, where Obama accepted his party's nomination and put Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware on his ticket. Jill Hazelbaker, McCain's communications director, gave nothing away during an interview on CBS' "The Early Show." "John McCain is going to make the choice from his heart. He's going to choose someone who can be a partner in governing. He's going to choose someone who brings character and principle to the table and who shares his priorities. And I'm confident that he's going to make a great pick," Hazelbaker said. Republicans kick off their national nominating convention next week in St. Paul, Minn., and McCain's campaign hopes the announcement of his running mate will stunt any momentum Obama might get from the just-concluded Democratic National Convention. McCain was mum on the subject Thursday as he and his wife, Cindy, boarded a plane in Phoenix bound for Dayton.

Im sure tons of women will be voting for him if she is the VP. A "smart and smooth" move by McCain if this takes place. This sure aint swaying my vote. I didnt know a women who's been a governor one full term has credentials enough to be a VP, either.

I don't necessarily agree with you Double F. I feel the candidate should be voted for on the merit of his platform, not if he has a woman as a running mate. That is to say, I feel most americans will lean to voting that way.

I still don't like either of them, but we shall see I guess. Right now, Im leaning towards McCain, who I think will win anyways.

GrayGhost wrote:

I don't necessarily agree with you Double F. I feel the candidate should be voted for on the merit of his platform, not if he has a woman as a running mate. That is to say, I feel most americans will lean to voting that way. I still don't like either of them, but we shall see I guess. Right now, Im leaning towards McCain, who I think will win anyways.

A vote for McCain is like voting for GW Bush all over again. Id blame you everytime something went wrong if you vote that man into office.

...and these crazy middle aged women on PMS were OBSESSED with Hillary.... now that a "man" might run "their" country, they might want to swing towards voting for a guy who will have a woman by his side making some choices. These chicks are crazy. Theres even ads now with women who "cant vote for obama" and have switched parties.... yeh, real loyalty there to your party.

FlairFanatic wrote:

GrayGhost wrote: I don't necessarily agree with you Double F. I feel the candidate should be voted for on the merit of his platform, not if he has a woman as a running mate. That is to say, I feel most americans will lean to voting that way. I still don't like either of them, but we shall see I guess. Right now, Im leaning towards McCain, who I think will win anyways. A vote for McCain is like voting for GW Bush all over again. Id blame you everytime something went wrong if you vote that man into office. ...and these crazy middle aged women on PMS were OBSESSED with Hillary.... now that a "man" might run "their" country, they might want to swing towards voting for a guy who will have a woman by his side making some choices. These chicks are crazy. Theres even ads now with women who "cant vote for obama" and have switched parties.... yeh, real loyalty there to your party.

Why Blame me? A LOT of people will vote for McCain. Again, as stated, I have to review both candidates. We certainly don't want another Bush presidency.

I thought Leiberman was going to be his running mate.

Personally I agree that a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of the same sh*t. Like your life right now? Think the country is doing better now than it was 8 years ago? Then by all means, vote for McCain.

(Oh, and if you're a UFC fan, get ready to kiss your sport goodbye if McCain wins. He's the guy who got it banned from cable a few years back. It's fact. Go look it up.)

Yup, everything's just *fine*. Let's have 4 more years of THIS: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

Adam wrote:

Personally I agree that a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of the same sh*t. Like your life right now? Think the country is doing better now than it was 8 years ago? Then by all means, vote for McCain.

Well, if McCain is another "Bush like" era, there's no way in hell I can consider that. The Economy, health care and such are all a mess now, as I see it. Not to mention the war. For me, lower prices at the pump, affordable health care and all are top issues.

I consider the last eight years simply horrible. But, Ive read a few stories, and while most were positive of Obama's speech, some think his wife will be an issue, and will try and "change American Values" and stuff too.

As more than one person in the articles stated, "Obama could be the lesser of two evils". I guess its time to study some more.

it's kind of scary, but i have to actually pay attention to what these guys say because during the next 4 years it's actually going to affect me.

i've decided who i am voting for, and mccain having a women vp, whether what mike said his intentions were are true or not, wont swing my vote.

GrayGhost wrote:

Adam wrote: Personally I agree that a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of the same sh*t. Like your life right now? Think the country is doing better now than it was 8 years ago? Then by all means, vote for McCain. Well, if McCain is another "Bush like" era, there's no way in hell I can consider that. The Economy, health care and such are all a mess now, as I see it. Not to mention the war. For me, lower prices at the pump, affordable health care and all are top issues. I consider the last eight years simply horrible. But, Ive read a few stories, and while most were positive of Obama's speech, some think his wife will be an issue, and will try and "change American Values" and stuff too. As more than one person in the articles stated, "Obama could be the lesser of two evils". I guess its time to study some more.

I think what needs changing is that white middle class does not equal American values. America is a political system, not a cultural ideal.

Black people were here at the formation of this country, Native Americans as well. Every wave of immigrants brought a cultural identity. All of them can live under the "American system" but wouldn't fit in the White, WASP, middle-class American values BS.

I am voting for Obama, because he represents a change in economic policy, social policy, foreign policy, and is an articulate and intelligent man.

GrayGhost wrote:

some think his wife will be an issue, and will try and "change American Values" and stuff too. As more than one person in the articles stated, "Obama could be the lesser of two evils". I guess its time to study some more.

see this is just moronic. how does barack or his family not represent american values? im not talking about what "youve heard" im talking facts. a son of a single mom working his way to local government, federal government and now president by helping the middle class seems pretty american to me. if you dont agree with his policies thats fine but saying he doesnt represent american values is silly

Winner.

Skip McGee wrote:

GrayGhost wrote: some think his wife will be an issue, and will try and "change American Values" and stuff too. As more than one person in the articles stated, "Obama could be the lesser of two evils". I guess its time to study some more. see this is just moronic. how does barack or his family not represent american values? im not talking about what "youve heard" im talking facts. a son of a single mom working his way to local government, federal government and now president by helping the middle class seems pretty american to me. if you dont agree with his policies thats fine but saying he doesnt represent american values is silly

I didnt see it. I read it in an article.

Here's the link to a good article on the acceptance night ..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080829/pl_bloomberg/azxgmstuh45w

FlairFanatic wrote:

GrayGhost wrote: I don't necessarily agree with you Double F. I feel the candidate should be voted for on the merit of his platform, not if he has a woman as a running mate. That is to say, I feel most americans will lean to voting that way. I still don't like either of them, but we shall see I guess. Right now, Im leaning towards McCain, who I think will win anyways. A vote for McCain is like voting for GW Bush all over again. Id blame you everytime something went wrong if you vote that man into office. ...and these crazy middle aged women on PMS were OBSESSED with Hillary.... now that a "man" might run "their" country, they might want to swing towards voting for a guy who will have a woman by his side making some choices. These chicks are crazy. Theres even ads now with women who "cant vote for obama" and have switched parties.... yeh, real loyalty there to your party.

Before I get crucified for the next few paragraphs, bear in mind that the choice of Joe Biden as VP has moved me to consider voting for Obama and that I think due to her absolute lack of experience John McCain has made a lousy choice. That being said...

You're throwing barbs at Hillary Clinton supporters. Your assertion is that they are "...crazy middle aged women on PMS (who) were OBSESSED with Hillary...". You go on to further imply that they are somehow wrong for wanting to vote on the Republican side because a woman is going to be second in command.

Based on your assertions, let me ask you a question...and I may get some shit for it, but screw it. If it's so wrong for these women to want a woman in the White House in some form with the predominant reason being that she's a woman...why don't you call out African Americans who want Barrack Obama in office becasue he's black?

Bias works against gender as well as race. Me...I don't think blasting African Americans about choosing Barrack predominantly is a bad thing-but if it's fair for them, it's fair for women to make a similar choice.

As to party loyalty-fuck that noise. People will ALWAYS vote for self interest, as well they should. Tying your ass to one party out of loyalty? No thanks-I'm a voter, not a member of the flock.

Well, if a black person is voting for a black guy because... he is black, thats a bad reason to vote for someone. Just because he is the same race as you doesn't mean hes fit for the job. Just because Hillary was a woman, doesn't mean she would represent women well.

Black, white, green, whatever color... i dont care. If they arent qualified, then, i wont be voting for them.

FlairFanatic wrote:

Well, if a black person is voting for a black guy because... he is black, thats a bad reason to vote for someone. Just because he is the same race as you doesn't mean hes fit for the job. Just because Hillary was a woman, doesn't mean she would represent women well. Black, white, green, whatever color... i dont care. If they arent qualified, then, i wont be voting for them.

Then you probably shouldn't cast any vote...you've got a pigheaded stubborn old man -v- a very inexperienced Presidential candidate. Just because he's old as dirt doesn't make him the second coming of Ronald Reagan...and just because the other guy keeps harping on unspecific change doesn' t make him the second coming of JFK either. It's almost like you have to go with the default position of voting for the second in command...which in this case, Biden would be the MUCH better choice.

OMG...I'm voting for Obama. Well, Biden really.

All i can say

























MILF!

This provides an interesting choice for voters. As it stands, there are two options.

Obama/Biden - You have the first term black Senator from Chicago with no leadership experience who chose a white Senator who has been part of the Washington good old boy network for 30 years.

McCain/Palin - You have a white Senator who has been part of the Washington good old boy network for almost 30 years who chose a first term female Governor with a little leadership experience. Not much, mind you, but a little.



Am I the only one that looks at that laughs?

Well, its official she will be the VP, yech.

All we will hear now is how young and accomplished she is, how she "understands" iraq and afganastan because her son is in the military, and how shes a chick thats decent looking, but yet a "devout christian".

FlairFanatic wrote:

Well, its official she will be the VP, yech. and how shes a chick thats decent looking, but yet a "devout christian".

LMAO . It IS POSSIBLE that a Chick can be a devout Christian AND DECENT LOOKING TOO. she just may not be Miss Kinkyville.

GrayGhost wrote:

I didnt see it. I read it in an article. Here's the link to a good article on the acceptance night .. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080829/pl_bloomberg/azxgmstuh45w

i didnt ask what yahoo news though. its ok to form your own opinion not just follow someone elses

about palin, if i was a hillary supporter id be insulted that people think id vote for palin just because shes a woman. she is about as opposite as hillary as far as her core beliefs so its almost sending a message "we picked a woman, so if you like hillary, vote palin cuz all women are the same"

FlairFanatic wrote:

Well, its official she will be the VP, yech. All we will hear now is how young and accomplished she is, how she "understands" iraq and afganastan because her son is in the military, and how shes a chick thats decent looking, but yet a "devout christian".

whats interesting is, mccain already has a son in iraq and both palin's son and joe biden's son are going over to serve in iraq

the fact that almost nobody knows who she is isnt a help IMO. or how about Alaska ranks up there with Connecticut in the dirty politicians department.

atleast he didnt pick emporer leiberman

I thought Lieberman wouldve been great for the Democrats but i dont really think he was in the running considering how it wouldve pissed off most Republicans. i think it was more hot air than anything else,the same as Dodd possibly being Obama's VP choice.

Maybe Lieberman will form the Joe For VP Party and run for the vice presidency as an independent.