[Whitey]

T3WP - The Way Wrestling Was Promotion
Sunday, October 12, 2008
Elks Lodge, 429 Morgan Rd., West Springfield, MA
Two Cards (3 p.m. and 7 p.m.), Dinner Between Shows
Adults: $12 for one show, $25 for both shows & dinner
Kids under 12: $6 for one show, $12 for both shows & dinner


3 p.m. Card:

Frankie Arion vs. Maverick Wild (2 out of 3 falls)

“The Epic” Mike Bennett vs. “The Promise” Antonio Thomas

Azrieal & Mikaze vs. The Alumni Club w/ Marshall McNeill

“The Ladies Man” Gregory Edwards vs. “The Punisher” Don Vega

Brian Fury & Guy Alexander vs. Freightrain

Zack Statik & Billy King vs. Pierre “The Beast” Vachon & “White Lion” Jim Tanner

"The Duke of Elegance" Don Chesterfield vs. “The Hawaiian Warrior” Makua

“Mr. Sensational” Scott Levesque vs. Big Daddy Bravo


7 p.m. Card:

“The Epic” Mike Bennett vs. John Walters

The Logan Brothers vs. The Alumni Club w/ Marshall McNeill (2 out of 3 falls)

Frankie Arion vs. “The Promise” Antonio Thomas (2 out of 3 falls)

Brian Fury vs. “The Punisher” Don Vega

“The Ladies Man” Gregory Edwards vs. “The Lebanese Prince” Jalil Salaam

Pierre “The Beast” Vachon & “White Lion” Jim Tanner vs. Zack Statik & Billy King

“Mr. Sensational” Scott Levesque vs. “The Hawaiian Warrior” Makua

The Brooklyn Thug vs. Mikaze


Cards are subject to change.
www.T3WP.com

[GrayGhost]

Looks really good. See you all at the shows.

[FlairFanatic]

Nice Cards! If I have the time off from work, ill be there!

[EricYoungFan]

I can't wait for this, it looks like 2 really good shows.

[fat and stinky 24/7]

not as good as the show im gonna give you. wait'll you see my new thong

[GrayGhost]

Go back to your classes. Nice job of ruining good threads jerk.

Anyways, I like the shows too. Some good 2/3 fall matches, some new faces since April and the dinner. 25.00 for all that is a really good deal. I look forward to the events, and will have a full write up on both shows.

[fat and stinky 24/7]

calm down Scott old buddy. it's not the thong you gave me

[Paully54]

he's running two shows in one day, and if i remember correctly, he drew less than 100 people last time.

and hes got some good "indy" names on the card that can't be super cheap.

question:
Will he make money?

probably not, but he'll put on a good show of wrestling at least for the fans.

[Tauron Nox]

They had my attention until I saw 7:00 PM on a Sunday. Ugh.

[GrayGhost]

Well, when there's two shows, one of em prob will start a bit late. But, for your distance from the event, I can understand that.

[EricYoungFan]

GrayGhost wrote:

Go back to your classes. Nice job of ruining good threads jerk. Anyways, I like the shows too. Some good 2/3 fall matches, some new faces since April and the dinner. 25.00 for all that is a really good deal. I look forward to the events, and will have a full write up on both shows.

just ignore that person, they feed off your attention.

it's gonna be a good time, lots of fun =)

[fat and stinky 24/7]

honey we always have lots of fun. kissee kissee,smooch smooch

[FlairFanatic]

Paully54 wrote:

he's running two shows in one day, and if i remember correctly, he drew less than 100 people last time. and hes got some good "indy" names on the card that can't be super cheap. question: Will he make money? probably not, but he'll put on a good show of wrestling at least for the fans.

Indy promoters that make money? Thats a good laugh.

Yeh if your coming from any sort of a "distance" it may be tough. A doubleheader on a sunday is a bit sour but, oh well.

[Paully54]

well i doubt an indy promoter would run a show with the idea of losing money.. they all want to at least break even and make a little bit, right?

but that doest seem possible with these two shows on the same day, especially with those days being a sunday.

[Tauron Nox]

GrayGhost wrote:

Well, when there's two shows, one of em prob will start a bit late. But, for your distance from the event, I can understand that.

It's just that it's on a Sunday. I can understand why, though.

Jen just informed me that she has the next day off. We may make it to this. Will have to think about it.

[GrayGhost]

Tauron Nox wrote:

GrayGhost wrote: Well, when there's two shows, one of em prob will start a bit late. But, for your distance from the event, I can understand that. It's just that it's on a Sunday. I can understand why, though. Jen just informed me that she has the next day off. We may make it to this. Will have to think about it.

I hope you guys make it down. Gonna be 2 fun shows . Besides. I miss seeing Jen and Mr Nox too, I guess. and due to varying reasons, I cant make it to Leominster for FRW.

[FlairFanatic]

Paully54 wrote:

well i doubt an indy promoter would run a show with the idea of losing money.. they all want to at least break even and make a little bit, right? but that doest seem possible with these two shows on the same day, especially with those days being a sunday.

Yes they all WANT to make money or HOPE to break even, but, that doesn't always happen. You cant run a show and expect to make X amount of money.

He doesn't have any TV stars or anyone who would cost a ton of money, so, it shouldnt be a concern.

[Paully54]

Not a ton of money? More than half those guys gotta be at least a little chunk of change. guys like antonio, walters, azrieal, they gotta charge a bit

Let's give him a high estimate of 100 people per show... thats 200 total

if they all bought the $25 pack (which the priciest option bc it comes with dinner).. then that means

25 x 100 = 2500

now, that is a very high estimate for a sunday show.

So, even if you have to pay every wrestler $30 per match.. do the math, he's now down to about $1200 give or take.. now, i think $30 is a low amount to pay most of those guys, so he's probably shelling out waaayyy more than that

so, he's got 1200 left for the hall, ring, and insurance... gunna be a tight one to even break even..


but at least ill get to see a good show!!

[Rumors Rule]

Who cares what he takes in. He is providing a good quality show.. Watch the show and shut the fuck up

[Paully54]

i just think its silly to practically plan on losing money to put on a show..

[FlairFanatic]

Paully54 wrote:

i just think its silly to practically plan on losing money to put on a show..

Then tell 95% of the wrestling promoters this. Tell 75% of the wrestlers that, as im sure by the time they drive there and back with gas, tolls, food and such, they are going home with a pocket full of money, either. Obviously, no one has smartened you up on how LITTLE money is in indy wrestling.

[Michael_R_Giusti]

Just a little addendum for the people debating headcount... Just because a show might have 100 people there, doesn't mean they're all paying fans off the street. Don't forget how many guys bring a comp or how many workers show up for the heck of it.

[Whitey]

Hey, folks!

For those opting for the dinner package: It looks like we'll be having roast chicken, rice pilaf, and green beans. Beverages will be available, but they won't be free with admission.

-Whitey
T3WP.com

[GrayGhost]

Whitey wrote:

Hey, folks! For those opting for the dinner package: It looks like we'll be having roast chicken, rice pilaf, and green beans. Beverages will be available, but they won't be free with admission. -Whitey T3WP.com

Roast chicken? wow. Why no beverage as part of the meal tho? Just curious. I hope to be there.

[Whitey]

Hi, GrayGhost!

Quote:

Why no beverage as part of the meal tho? Just curious.

I'm not sure about all of the details. Richard's the one who's been working his behind off to set all of this up. We've had to change dinner arrangements a couple of times already, and this is what we've finally worked out with the Elks.


-Whitey